Tommy's Gaussian method.
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(07/28/2021, 12:02 AM)tommy1729 Wrote: Again I want to give some more details about my thoughts.

considering 2 things.

First a note on functional inverse.

I estimated the bounds of ln ln ... a^b^...(A)

but let B = ln ln ... a^b^...(A)

then A = ln_ln(...)(...ln_ln(b)(ln_ln(a)(exp(exp...exp(B))))))

notice how this gives similar bounds by the same method !!

so the function is bounded and its inverse is also bounded !!

That is a powerful thing !!

Also This is a nice alternative way of looking at it , that might convince ppl who were perhaps confused or arguing " chaos as objection " for one them.

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The second thing is this thought experiment :

Let abs(s) < sqrt(2)

Then how does ln^[n](exp^[n](s) + C) behave ?

It turns out for real s this converges nice and any real C > 0 this converges fast.

However when s or C are complex things are slightly different !

This is hard to test numerically because of overflow or even with calculus.

But it is clear that when C goes to zero ( as function of n ) FAST ENOUGH , then it converges to s.

so how fast is fast ??

Well for abs(s) < sqrt(2) and sufficiently large n ( usually 2,3  or 4 will already do ) :

ln^[n](exp^[n](s) + exp(- n^2) ) = s + o(exp(- n^2)) + o(exp(- n^2)) i

(if we take the correct branches).

Now this looks familiar not ??



This strenghtens my previous ideas and bound arguments ofcourse.



regards

tommy1729

Yes Tommy;

and for large \( s \) we'll get that

\(
u(s) = \text{Tom}_A(s) - \beta(s) = \mathcal{O}(e^{-\sqrt{s}});
\)

And so we should get that,

\(
\log^{\circ n} \text{Tom}_A(s+n) = \log^{\circ n} \beta(s+n) + u(s+n) = \log^{\circ n} (\beta(s+n)) + e^{-\sqrt{n}} \mathcal{O}(e^{-\sqrt{s}})\\
\)

Or something that looks like this. The errors are something like this; these are just rough estimates. Still haven't found a good way to compare.

I'm glad you're on the same page as me. I do feel your approximation is definitely better; but I'm of the view that this is all just the beta method. The trouble with your method though is that it doesn't create the periodic tetrations; which I think are very important--and can be used to classify tetrations.

I love the idea of using a gaussian as opposed to a logistic approach.

Regards, James
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Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/09/2021, 04:18 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/09/2021, 04:56 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/10/2021, 04:34 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/12/2021, 04:48 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/21/2021, 05:29 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/21/2021, 06:55 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/21/2021, 09:52 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/22/2021, 02:21 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/22/2021, 12:13 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/23/2021, 04:13 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/25/2021, 10:54 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/23/2021, 11:18 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/25/2021, 11:20 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/25/2021, 11:58 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/26/2021, 10:24 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/25/2021, 11:59 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/26/2021, 12:03 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 07/28/2021, 12:02 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 07/28/2021, 12:24 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 08/06/2021, 12:15 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 08/19/2021, 09:40 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 11/09/2021, 01:12 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 11/09/2021, 11:59 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 11/10/2021, 12:10 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 11/11/2021, 12:58 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 05/12/2022, 11:58 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 05/12/2022, 12:01 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 05/14/2022, 12:25 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 05/22/2022, 12:35 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 05/22/2022, 12:40 AM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 05/26/2022, 10:54 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 05/26/2022, 10:57 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 05/26/2022, 11:06 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by JmsNxn - 05/26/2022, 11:13 PM
RE: Tommy's Gaussian method. - by tommy1729 - 06/28/2022, 02:23 PM

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