Going in the other direction ?
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Hey, Tommy!

Yes things like what you are looking for do indeed exist. But we have to go the other way. This means we have to use outer infinite compositions. I haven't done much work with these, but the same normality theorems arise. So instead of,

\(
\phi_1(s,\phi_2(s,...\phi_n(s,z)))\\
\)

Where we note the limit is going to be taken on the inside, we do,

\(
\phi_n(s,\phi_{n-1}(s,...\phi_1(s,z)))\\
\)

Where now the limit is on the outside. The same convergence theorems I described earlier do work; they're not optimal; for the single variable case they converge to constant, and I'm pretty sure you may be able to reduce them a tad in the bivariable case. This case is actually easier than the inner compositional case. I chose inner because it left for less messy equations. So for example, say you want something that looks like \( \text{slog} \). I can think of a couple; they're not ideal--mostly because we need to use 2 variables rather than one. In my construction of \( \phi \) I got to throw-away the \( z \) value. I haven't thought of a way to do this in the outer case... But for example consider,

\(
H(s,z) =\mathcal{L} _{j=1}^\infty z + e^{s-j+z} \bullet z\\
\)

\( \mathcal{L}_{j=1}^\infty \) is just the outer composition notion (disclaimer: this isn't the symbology I use, I use an upside down \( \Omega \) for this--this forums latex abilities are limited). Then,

\(
H(s, z + e^{s+z}) = H(s+1,z)\\
\)

Now, all be it, it's not perfect. But it should be entire in \( z,s\in\mathbb{C} \). You can massage this, by taking inverses in \( s \); maybe switching up the composite a bit; to get something to look more like \( \text{slog}(e^z) = \text{slog}(z) + 1 \)--but I can't think off hand. The key take away is that the functional equation is now on the inside rather than the outside.

Rather than solving for \( f \) like this,

\(
f(s+1,z) = F(s,f(s,z))\\
\)

We are solving for \( f \) like this,

\(
f(s,F(s,z)) = f(s+1,z)\\
\)

It's pretty much the same theory, just use outer compositions.
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Going in the other direction ? - by tommy1729 - 01/26/2021, 01:19 PM
RE: Going in the other direction ? - by JmsNxn - 01/28/2021, 01:48 AM



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