" tommy quaternion "
#4
Hi, why you don't specify that \( C*B=A \) in your list of identities? You forgot to add it or it is possible to derive it from the others?

Also, you see it as a non-associative algebra over the reals or the complex?

Trivial question (sorry but I'm new to linear algebra): being an algebra means that \( \mathbb T \) is a \( k \)-vector space of dimension d=4 on which is defined a bilinear application \( *:{\mathbb T} \times {\mathbb T}\to {\mathbb T} \) that is not associative... but it must be bilinear because we want it distributive:

  1. An element is of the form \( T=x1+yA+zB+wC \). Let  \( T,R,S,U\in{\mathbb T} \), the application being distributive means that

    \( (T+R)*(S+U)=T*S+R*S+T*U+R*U \)

    i.e. every translation by a Tommy quaternion is a endomorphism of  the addition group;


  2. and we also want that for every scalar \( \lambda \)

    \( \lambda R*S= R*\lambda S=\lambda (R*S) \)

    i.e we want it to contain a copy of the base field, i.e multiplication by scalar  is multiplication by \( \lambda1 \) where \( 1\in \mathbb T \). So the previous means that the Tommy quaternions of the form \( T=x1+0A+0B+0C \) commute and "associate" with everything.

But this means that the multiplication is bilinear: every element should it should have a representation.. e.g. multiplication by \( T \) has a 4x4 matrix \( M_T \).
Obviously if it is not associative we "should not" have \( M_{T*S}=M_{T}M_{S} \) in general...

Probably my understanding of non-associative alg. is so poor that I'm missing something obvious.

Mother Law \(\sigma^+\circ 0=\sigma \circ \sigma^+ \)

\({\rm Grp}_{\rm pt} ({\rm RK}J,G)\cong \mathbb N{\rm Set}_{\rm pt} (J, \Sigma^G)\)
Reply


Messages In This Thread
" tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 01/18/2021, 11:03 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by marraco - 01/21/2021, 12:49 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 01/21/2021, 01:17 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by MphLee - 01/21/2021, 09:27 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 01/21/2021, 11:47 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by MphLee - 01/22/2021, 12:03 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 01/22/2021, 12:15 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 01/22/2021, 12:10 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by MphLee - 01/22/2021, 12:41 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 01/23/2021, 01:17 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by marraco - 01/24/2021, 06:53 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 02/12/2021, 11:17 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by JmsNxn - 02/14/2021, 02:24 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by Gottfried - 06/19/2022, 08:07 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 03/23/2021, 01:21 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 09/16/2021, 11:34 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by MphLee - 06/18/2022, 08:56 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by Catullus - 06/18/2022, 09:06 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 06/18/2022, 11:36 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by MphLee - 06/25/2022, 09:13 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 06/25/2022, 09:50 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by MphLee - 06/18/2022, 09:26 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 06/19/2022, 12:17 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 06/25/2022, 07:52 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 06/25/2022, 10:02 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 07/04/2022, 06:05 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 07/04/2022, 06:11 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 07/04/2022, 06:36 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by Catullus - 06/19/2022, 08:16 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 07/04/2022, 07:30 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by Catullus - 07/04/2022, 10:58 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 01/20/2023, 12:33 AM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 02/05/2023, 10:40 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 02/10/2023, 11:53 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 02/12/2023, 02:02 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 02/14/2023, 11:30 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 02/14/2023, 11:47 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 02/05/2023, 10:51 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 04/03/2023, 10:48 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 04/03/2023, 11:24 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 04/04/2023, 11:00 PM
RE: " tommy quaternion " - by tommy1729 - 05/23/2023, 07:56 PM

Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  [NT] Caleb stuff , mick's MSE and tommy's diary functions tommy1729 0 2,884 02/26/2023, 08:37 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  tommy's "linear" summability method tommy1729 15 18,348 02/10/2023, 03:55 AM
Last Post: JmsNxn
  tommy's group addition isomo conjecture tommy1729 1 3,838 09/16/2022, 12:25 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  tommy's displacement equation tommy1729 1 4,084 09/16/2022, 12:24 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  semi-group homomorphism and tommy's U-tetration tommy1729 5 7,329 08/12/2022, 08:14 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  Tommy's Gaussian method. tommy1729 34 43,114 06/28/2022, 02:23 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  tommy's new conjecture/theorem/idea (2022) ?? tommy1729 0 2,914 06/22/2022, 11:49 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  tommy beta method tommy1729 0 2,857 12/09/2021, 11:48 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  tommy's singularity theorem and connection to kneser and gaussian method tommy1729 2 5,756 09/20/2021, 04:29 AM
Last Post: JmsNxn
  tommy's simple solution ln^[n](2sinh^[n+x](z)) tommy1729 1 9,287 01/17/2017, 07:21 AM
Last Post: sheldonison



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)