Rational operators (a {t} b); a,b > e solved
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(06/06/2011, 04:39 AM)sheldonison Wrote: mylatest kneser.gp code, which includes \( \text{sexp}_\eta(z) \) support. This would also make it easier for other to try it.
Code:
fatb(a,t,b) = {
  if (t>=1, return (cheta(invcheta(b*cheta(invcheta(a)+1-t))+t-1)));
  if (t<1,  return (cheta(invcheta( cheta(invcheta(a)-t)+cheta(invcheta(b)-t) )+t)));
}

Oh that's great! I'd love to see what happens for complex operator values, I'll just modify your code slightly to say real(t) under the if conditions.


(06/06/2011, 04:39 AM)sheldonison Wrote: I've gotten as far as quickly verifying that for t=0, we have addition, t=1, we have multiplication, and t=2 is exponentiation.

for example,
fatb(3,0,4)=7, which is 3+4
fatb(3,1,4)=12, which is 3x4
fatb(3,2,4)=81, which is 3^4
what does it mean that fatb(3,-1,4)=5.429897..?
Is there a smooth continuation to a function for t=3, which would be tetration? if a<e=2.718, then it appears that the non integer nodes have complex values, though perhaps the sexpeta/invsexpeta functions could be used in place of cheta/invcheta (it might even be a smooth transition).
- Sheldon

fatb(3, -1, 4) = 5.429897, is the value of 3 delta 4; where deltation is the operator which satisfies the following conditions:
\( a\, \bigtriangleup\, b = \log_\eta(e^{\frac{a}{e}} + e^{\frac{b}{e}}) \), it's commutative and addition is spread across it:
\( (a\, \bigtriangle\, b) + c = (a + c)\, \bigtriangleup\,(b+c) \), and finally, it's defined by the following recursion formula:
\( a_1\, \bigtriangle\, a_2\, \bigtriangle\, a_3 ... \bigtriangle\, a_n = a + \log_\eta(n) \)

Basically, the whole domain of operators from \( (-\infty,0) \) are designed to: continue the ring structure of {t-1} and {t} found across addition and multiplication, and multiplication and exponentiation; and are designed to provide a smooth extension of operators to the negative domain. It differs from zeration insofar as zeration is defined by proper recursion \( a + 2 = a \circ a \) and it's discontinuous. It's better than zeration insofar as the series of operators can be continued infinitely.

As of now, it's possible to compute \( a\, \{2 + q\}\, n \) for a>e, and \( n \in N \), which would be rational tetration. So actually yes, I can evaluate \( 4\, \{t\}\, 3 \) over domain \( t \in (-\infty, 3] \)
The formula is given by:
\( a\, \{2 + q\}\, n = a_1\, \{1+q\}\, (a_2 \,\{1+q\}\, (a_3\,\{1+q\}...a_n \)

And lastly, I tried using sexp/slog base \( \eta \) for a,b < e and the graph of \( a\, \{t\} \,b \) is not smooth and there are two humps at about {0.5} and {1.5} which is very unflattering. I was surprised when the cheta function worked, but it did. I have to give myself time to think about it first, but right now I'm sure the extension for a,b <= e is right infront of our eyes.

Edit:
I edited your code and tested if
fatb(3, i, 3) = fatb(3, i+1, 2), and it does. Ackerman function is entering the complex plane me thinks.

Edit again:
Quote: if a<e=2.718, then it appears that the non integer nodes have complex values
I was wondering if you could explain what you mean by this? Is there a way to calculate a,b < e using the cheta function?
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RE: Rational operators (a {t} b); a,b > e solved - by JmsNxn - 06/06/2011, 05:34 AM

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