Zeration
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(01/05/2023, 08:53 PM)MphLee Wrote: I agree, in fact I'm working on Goodstein-like solutions on my quest for naturality.
But there can be a non-trivial zerations zoo of solutions. And this thread is all about that alternative exotic landscape. One day we will be able to appreciate better its taste and meaning I believe, eg. its relationship to tropical math.

Hello MphLee!

I'm interested in negative-rank hyperoperations, and I posted this on the googology fandom of japan. I tried to solve the equation for bi-infinite sequence \((\star_r: \mathbb{Z}_{\geq 2} \times \mathbb{Z}_{\geq 2} \to \mathbb{Z}_{\geq 2})_{r = -\infty}^{\infty}\) as follows:
\[
    \forall m \forall r \forall n; m \star_{r+1} (n+1) = m \star_r (m \star_{r+1} n) \land m \star_{r+1} 2 = m \star_r m \land m \star_1 n = m+n.
\]
I proofed the existence of solutions and found one, \(\star_0 = \heartsuit\) such that
\[
    m \heartsuit n =
    \begin{cases}
        n & \text{if}\; 2 \leq n \leq m-1 \\
        n+2 & \text{if}\; n = m \\
        n & \text{if}\; n = m+1 \\
        n+1 & \text{if}\; n \geq m+2.
    \end{cases}
\]
Then all negative elements are uniquely determined as
\[
    m \star_{-1} n =
    \left\{
    \begin{array}{lll}
        & & \text{if \(m = 2\) and} \\
        n+1 & \leq 1 & n \leq 0 \\
        n+1 & = 2 & n = 1 \\
        n+2 & = 4 & n = 2 \\
        n+2 & = 5 & n = 3 \\
        n-1 & = 3 & n = 4 \\
        n+1 & \geq 6 & n \geq 5 \\
        & & \text{if \(m = 3\) and} \\
        n+1 & \leq 1 & n \leq 0 \\
        n+2 & = 3 & n = 1 \\
        n+3 & = 5 & n = 2 \\
        n-1 & = 2 & n = 3 \\
        n+2 & = 6 & n = 4 \\
        n-1 & = 4 & n = 5 \\
        n+1 & \geq 7 & n \geq 6 \\
        & & \text{if \(m \geq 4\) and} \\
        n+1 & \leq 1 & n \leq 0 \\
        m & = m & n = 1 \\
        n+1 & \geq 3, \leq m-1 & 2 \leq n \leq m-2 \\
        n+3 & = m+2 & n = m-1 \\
        2 & = 2 & n = m \\
        n+2 & = m+3 & n = m+1 \\
        n-1 & = m+1 & n = m+2 \\
        n+1 & \geq m+4 & n \geq m+3
    \end{array}
    \right.
\]
\[
    m \star_{-2} n =
    \left\{
    \begin{array}{lll}
        & & \text{if \(m = 2\) and} \\
        n+1 & \leq 1 & n \leq 0 \\
        n+1 & = 2 & n = 1 \\
        n+2 & = 4 & n = 2 \\
        n+3 & = 6 & n = 3 \\
        n+1 & = 5 & n = 4 \\
        n-2 & = 3 & n = 5 \\
        n+1 & \geq 7 & n \geq 6 \\
        & & \text{if \(m = 3\) and} \\
        n+1 & \leq 1 & n \leq 0 \\
        n+2 & = 3 & n = 1 \\
        n+4 & = 6 & n = 2 \\
        n+2 & = 5 & n = 3 \\
        n+3 & = 7 & n = 4 \\
        n-3 & = 2 & n = 5 \\
        n-2 & = 4 & n = 6 \\
        n+1 & \geq 8 & n \geq 7 \\
        & & \text{if \(m = 4\) and} \\
        n+1 & \leq 1 & n \leq 0 \\
        n+3 & = 4 & n = 1 \\
        n+5 & = 7 & n = 2 \\
        n+3 & = 6 & n = 3 \\
        n-1 & = 3 & n = 4 \\
        n+3 & = 8 & n = 5 \\
        n-4 & = 2 & n = 6 \\
        n-2 & = 5 & n = 7 \\
        n+1 & \geq 9 & n \geq 8 \\
        & & \text{if \(m \geq 5\) and} \\
        n+1 & \leq 1 & n \leq 0 \\
        m & = m & n = 1 \\
        m+3 & = m+3 & n = 2 \\
        n+1 & \geq 4, \leq m-1 & 3 \leq n \leq m-2 \\
        n+3 & = m+2 & n = m-1 \\
        3 & = 3 & n = m \\
        n+3 & = m+4 & n = m+1 \\
        2 & = 2 & n = m+2 \\
        n-2 & = m+1 & n = m+3 \\
        n+1 & \geq m+5 & n \geq m+4
    \end{array}
    \right.
\]
...
If the domain and codomain are limited to \(\mathbb{Z}_{\geq 2}\), we can interpolate the hyperoperation sequence.


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Zeration - by GFR - 02/14/2008, 06:38 PM
RE: Zeration - by Ivars - 02/14/2008, 08:10 PM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 02/14/2008, 10:41 PM
RE: Zeration - by mathamateur - 07/30/2009, 06:31 AM
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RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 09:34 PM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 02/21/2008, 10:18 PM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 02/21/2008, 10:25 PM
RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 11:04 PM
RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 11:12 PM
RE: Zeration - by KAR - 02/21/2008, 11:04 PM
RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 11:52 PM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 02/24/2008, 12:39 AM
RE: Zeration - by Ivars - 02/24/2008, 02:50 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/20/2015, 09:59 PM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 02/24/2008, 11:02 AM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 03/19/2008, 12:40 PM
More on Zeration - by James Knight - 03/25/2008, 03:44 PM
Delta Numbers As HyperReals - by James Knight - 03/26/2008, 12:50 AM
RE: Delta Numbers As HyperReals - by Ivars - 03/26/2008, 12:15 PM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 03/26/2008, 12:22 AM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 04/05/2008, 08:58 PM
RE: Zeration - by Igor M - 01/14/2009, 04:04 PM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 01/20/2009, 09:59 PM
RE: Zeration - by 73939 - 07/05/2010, 12:00 AM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 07/05/2010, 07:37 AM
RE: Zeration - by brangelito - 07/20/2010, 05:51 PM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 07/21/2010, 02:58 AM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 11/09/2011, 01:40 AM
RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 11/09/2011, 04:15 AM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 11/10/2011, 01:20 AM
RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 11/10/2011, 02:09 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/20/2015, 09:44 AM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/13/2022, 10:43 PM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 06/13/2022, 10:48 PM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/13/2022, 10:56 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/20/2015, 10:41 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/21/2015, 12:35 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/21/2015, 01:44 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/21/2015, 04:10 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 03/21/2015, 11:53 AM
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RE: Zeration - by tommy1729 - 03/21/2015, 11:11 PM
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RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/24/2015, 11:29 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 03/23/2015, 09:00 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/23/2015, 01:39 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 03/23/2015, 02:31 PM
RE: Zeration - by Stanislav - 05/28/2015, 11:12 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 05/29/2015, 01:33 AM
RE: Zeration - by Stanislav - 05/29/2015, 09:06 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/03/2015, 01:40 PM
RE: Zeration - by Stanislav - 06/04/2015, 06:44 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 06/04/2015, 08:44 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/05/2015, 09:10 PM
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RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/13/2022, 10:48 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/16/2022, 10:28 PM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 06/14/2022, 01:16 AM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/14/2022, 04:31 AM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 06/14/2022, 05:38 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/30/2022, 11:32 PM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/30/2022, 11:37 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/30/2022, 11:47 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 12/28/2022, 01:28 PM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 12/30/2022, 02:45 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 01/05/2023, 08:53 PM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 01/10/2023, 05:59 AM
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