The ultimate sanity check
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Hmm, one more comment, why the property \( f°^{a+b}(z) = f°^b(f°^a(z)) \) holds for \( f(z) = \sin(z) \)

The Carleman-ansatz gives a triangular Carlemanmatrix, say \( S \) for the sine-function. \( S \) however has the diagonal of \( 1 \), so the diagonalization (which were then the operationalizing of the Schroeder-mechanism) cannot be applied here.    

But for any finite size of \( S \) we can determine exactly the matrix logarithm using the Mercator-series for the \( \log(1+x) \) applied to the matrix \( S - I \). We get then -say-  
\[  L = \text{matlog}(S)  \tag 1\]
(Note: we generalize this to the case of infinite size because the entries in the matrix do not change if we increase size; this is due to triangularity of and the unit diagonal in \( S \) )        

Equivalently we can apply the powerseries for the exponential-function to \( L \) getting exact, rational, coefficients.       

We can thus formulate for some (integer or fractional) iteration-height \( h \)      
\[   S^h = \text{matexp}( h \cdot L) \tag 2
\]
In Pari/GP the parameter \( h \) in this operations can be left symbolic so we get exact rational expressions in \( S^h \) - and the relevant coefficients \( s_{r,h} \) are in the second column and r'th row of \( S^h \) . They are exactly the polynomials in \(h \) as shown by Daniel (and are also well known elsewhere).     

By this it is obvious that
\[   S^a \cdot S^b = \text{matexp}( b \cdot L) \cdot \text{matexp}(  a  \cdot L) =  \text{matexp}( ( a + b) \cdot L) = S^{a+b}  \tag 3
\]
down to the level of the coefficients of the powerseries-to-be-generated by the common rule of the exponential \( e^{\lambda a} \cdot e^{\lambda b} = e^{\lambda (a+b)} \).           

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Whether the so-found powerseries \[ \sin°^h(z) = s_{1,h} \cdot z + s_{2,h} \cdot z^2 + s_{3,h} \cdot z^3 + ... \tag 4 \] can be evaluated for fractional values \(h \) and \( z \) other than zero is another question and needs then (strong) procedures of divergent summation (I have applied selfmade such procedures and have approximated examplaric values for instance for \( h =0.5 \)) . Perhaps (or "likely"?) there are more sophisticated procedures for the evaluation of that powerseries around, but I didn't search for that so far.              

See also my answer1 and/or answer2 in MO where this is a bit described and in which complete sequence of answers are many more valuable informations.

Gottfried
Gottfried Helms, Kassel
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The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/03/2022, 01:46 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by tommy1729 - 07/04/2022, 12:52 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/04/2022, 03:02 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by JmsNxn - 07/04/2022, 11:33 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/05/2022, 12:43 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by JmsNxn - 07/05/2022, 12:48 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/12/2022, 03:05 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by JmsNxn - 07/12/2022, 05:27 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Gottfried - 07/12/2022, 09:13 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by bo198214 - 07/13/2022, 11:54 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/13/2022, 07:23 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by bo198214 - 07/13/2022, 08:32 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/13/2022, 08:49 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by JmsNxn - 07/13/2022, 09:01 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by bo198214 - 07/14/2022, 04:57 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by MphLee - 07/14/2022, 02:45 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/15/2022, 02:37 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Gottfried - 07/15/2022, 10:03 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Daniel - 07/15/2022, 11:22 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Gottfried - 07/15/2022, 03:01 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by MphLee - 07/15/2022, 02:20 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by Gottfried - 07/15/2022, 04:13 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by MphLee - 07/15/2022, 04:21 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by bo198214 - 07/16/2022, 01:41 PM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by JmsNxn - 07/17/2022, 06:34 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by bo198214 - 07/17/2022, 08:41 AM
RE: The ultimate sanity check - by bo198214 - 07/17/2022, 10:08 AM

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