computing the iterated exp(x)-1
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Here I show some matrices, which allow to compute real iterates
for x -> exp(x)-1

The matrix, which performs the iterate is

\( \hspace{24} C = F^{-1} * St2 * F \)

Code:
C=  (only 8 rows/columns shown)
  1        .        .        .      .      .   .   .
  0        1        .        .      .      .   .   .
  0      1/2        1        .      .      .   .   .
  0      1/6        1        1      .      .   .   .
  0     1/24     7/12      3/2      1      .   .   .
  0    1/120      1/4      5/4      2      1   .   .
  0    1/720   31/360      3/4   13/6    5/2   1   .
  0   1/5040     1/40   43/120    5/3   10/3   3   1

This matrix allows to compute

\( \hspace{24} V(x)\sim * C = V(e^x - 1)\sim \)



Example 1: normal iterates

\( \hspace{24} V(1)\sim * C = V(e - 1)\sim \)
\( \hspace{24} V(1)\sim * C^2 = V(e^{e - 1}-1)\sim \)

Code:
results

V(e - 1)= [1, e-1, (e-1)^2, (e-1)^3, ...] =
[    1.0000000    1.7182818    2.9524924    5.0732098    8.7170908    14.976648 ...]

V(e^(e - 1)-1 )= [1, e^(e-1)-1, (e^(e-1)-1)^2,  ...] =
[    1.0000000    4.5749415   20.930084    95.751617   437.84444    1994.7177   ...]



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To obtain real or complex iterates real or complex powers of
C are needed. The eigensystem of C is degenerate, so this cannot
be used. But there is the possibility of computing the matrix-
logarithm of C.

\( \hspace{24} LC = \log{\left(C\right)} \)
Code:
LC =
  0         .         .       .      .       .   .   .
  0         0         .       .      .       .   .   .
  0       1/2         0       .      .       .   .   .
  0     -1/12         1       0      .       .   .   .
  0      1/48      -1/6     3/2      0       .   .   .
  0    -1/180      1/24    -1/4      2       0   .   .
  0   11/8640     -1/90    1/16   -1/3     5/2   0   .
  0   -1/6720   11/4320   -1/60   1/12   -5/12   3   0

Of this we can compute arbitrary complex multiples, say for
a start, to realize the half-iterate means the square-root of
C, and this means 1/2*LC (not documented here, trivial)



Example 2: Square-root - 1/2-iterates

From this, the top left of C^0.5 is then
\( \hspace{24} C^{0.5} = \exp(0.5*LC) \)

Code:
C^0.5=
  1          .          .         .       .       .     .   .
  0          1          .         .       .       .     .   .
  0        1/4          1         .       .       .     .   .
  0       1/48        1/2         1       .       .     .   .
  0          0       5/48       3/4       1       .     .   .
  0     1/3840       1/96       1/4       1       1     .   .
  0   -7/92160   11/11520      3/64   11/24     5/4     1   .
  0   1/645120   -1/46080   23/3840     1/8   35/48   3/2   1

(note, that the second column is just the sequence, Henryk provided us with in the first post of this thread)

and we get the first four half-iterates (the interesting result is in 2'nd column)

Code:
1/2-iterates
   1.0000000    1.2710274    1.6155107    2.0533584    2.6098746     3.3172201
   1.0000000    1.7182818    2.9524924    5.0732098    8.7170908    14.976648
   1.0000000    2.5645129    6.5767163   16.865290    43.227699    110.47725
   1.0000000    4.5749415   20.930084    95.751617   437.84444    1994.7177



Example 3: Cube-root - 1/3-iterates

The top-left of the cube-root of C, C^(1/3) is

Code:
C^(1/3)=
  1           .         .        .      .      .   .   .
  0           1         .        .      .      .   .   .
  0         1/6         1        .      .      .   .   .
  0           0       1/3        1      .      .   .   .
  0           0      1/36      1/2      1      .   .   .
  0      1/4860         0     1/12    2/3      1   .   .
  0    -7/58320    1/2430    1/216    1/6    5/6   1   .
  0   23/612360   -1/5832   1/1620   1/54   5/18   1   1

We get the first six 1/3-iterates
Code:
1/3-iterates
   1.0000000    1.1667861    1.3613899    1.5884509    1.8533825    2.1625009
   1.0000000    1.3939228    1.9430208    2.7084211    3.7753299    5.2625167
   1.0000000    1.7182818    2.9524924    5.0732137    8.7171961   14.978293
   1.0000000    2.2116542    4.8914136   10.818048    23.923566    52.871434
   1.0000000    3.0306304    9.1846792   27.831709    84.229412   253.25930
   1.0000000    4.5749415   20.930084    95.751617   437.84444   1994.7177


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The convergence of the series for fractional iterates was worse than that
of integral iterates.
It looks also suspicious, that with dim=32, in the matrix-logarithm the
entries first decrease to higher indexed rows, (which suggests good
approximability) but increase again from, say,
row 24, so I don't know about the general behaviour (see table below)

This may have the same consequences for the fractional powers of C. (see table below)

I arrived at the above values using 32 coefficients "by default" by Euler-
summation. May be this procedure is required in general, in case the
entries of the fractional powers of C diverge but alternate in sign.
(That is then the field of analytic continuation, I assume?)


Gottfried
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Top left from the matrix-logarithm of C
Code:
1.0*LC=
  0                  .                  .                  .
  0                  0                  .                  .
  0         0.50000000                  0                  .
  0       -0.083333333          1.0000000                  0
  0        0.020833333        -0.16666667          1.5000000
  0      -0.0055555556        0.041666667        -0.25000000
  0       0.0012731481       -0.011111111        0.062500000
  0     -0.00014880952       0.0025462963       -0.016666667
  0    -0.000045469577     -0.00029761905       0.0038194444
  0     0.000019979056    -0.000090939153     -0.00044642857
  0     0.000011321465     0.000039958113     -0.00013640873
  0    -0.000011319378     0.000022642931     0.000059937169
  0   -0.0000017266470    -0.000022638755     0.000033964396
  0    0.0000070561217   -0.0000034532940    -0.000033958133
  0   -0.0000010130178     0.000014112243   -0.0000051799409
  0   -0.0000055954100   -0.0000020260355     0.000021168365
  0    0.0000027850090    -0.000011190820   -0.0000030390533
  0    0.0000055636225    0.0000055700180    -0.000016786230
  0   -0.0000054890313     0.000011127245    0.0000083550269
  0   -0.0000066929168    -0.000010978063     0.000016690867
  0     0.000011612181    -0.000013385834    -0.000016467094
  0    0.0000092209451     0.000023224363    -0.000020078750
  0    -0.000028132640     0.000018441890     0.000034836544
  0    -0.000013074482    -0.000056265279     0.000027662835
  0     0.000079067854    -0.000026148964    -0.000084397919
  0     0.000012559808      0.00015813571    -0.000039223446
  0     -0.00025744463     0.000025119617      0.00023720356
  0     0.000039946326     -0.00051488925     0.000037679425
  0      0.00096515491     0.000079892652     -0.00077233388
  0     -0.00047939822       0.0019303098      0.00011983898
  0      -0.0041340004     -0.00095879644       0.0028954647
  0       0.0036464303      -0.0082680007      -0.0014381947

Top left from C^(1/2) = Exp(1/2*log©)
Code:
1.0*C^(1/2)=
  1.0000000                    .                   .                   .
          0            1.0000000                   .                   .
          0           0.25000000           1.0000000                   .
          0          0.020833333          0.50000000           1.0000000
          0                    0          0.10416667          0.75000000
          0        0.00026041667         0.010416667          0.25000000
          0      -0.000075954861       0.00095486111         0.046875000
          0      0.0000015500992     -0.000021701389        0.0059895833
          0       0.000015404111     -0.000024026538       0.00048828125
          0     -0.0000090745391      0.000028418485     -0.000018859540
          0   -0.000000082819971     -0.000010314618      0.000032939608
          0      0.0000036074073    -0.0000041006314    -0.0000054640997
          0     -0.0000016951497     0.0000068018753    -0.0000091647597
          0     -0.0000013308992    -0.0000015822591     0.0000083398934
          0      0.0000017752144    -0.0000033661285   0.000000062080956
          0     0.00000037035398     0.0000028157312    -0.0000054374338
          0     -0.0000019147568     0.0000015749616     0.0000029115066
          0     0.00000034467343    -0.0000035720802     0.0000033166038
          0      0.0000024191341   -0.00000025294483    -0.0000046812506
          0     -0.0000014770587     0.0000049320576    -0.0000016708263
          0     -0.0000036046260    -0.0000017303876     0.0000071932744
          0      0.0000042603060    -0.0000078480430   -0.00000075380949
          0      0.0000061940178     0.0000066573185     -0.000012268458
          0      -0.000012625293      0.000014369165     0.0000069893294
          0      -0.000011736089     -0.000021977272      0.000023806922
          0       0.000041395229     -0.000029528323     -0.000027370787
          0       0.000022203030      0.000076399188     -0.000052087716
          0       -0.00015310857      0.000064617129       0.00010284248
          0      -0.000027832787      -0.00029339839       0.00012465733
          0        0.00064101866      -0.00013129869      -0.00041348905
          0       -0.00011130752        0.0012617648      -0.00030496184
          0        -0.0030302667      0.000096739308        0.0018342749
Gottfried Helms, Kassel
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computing the iterated exp(x)-1 - by Daniel - 08/13/2007, 10:47 PM
RE: computing the iterated exp(x)-1 - by andydude - 08/16/2007, 01:28 AM
RE: computing the iterated exp(x)-1 - by jaydfox - 08/16/2007, 06:51 AM
RE: computing the iterated exp(x)-1 - by bo198214 - 08/16/2007, 07:48 AM
RE: computing the iterated exp(x)-1 - by andydude - 08/17/2007, 08:44 PM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by bo198214 - 08/13/2007, 10:50 PM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by Daniel - 08/14/2007, 06:51 PM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by jaydfox - 08/14/2007, 01:01 AM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by Gottfried - 08/14/2007, 12:45 PM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by bo198214 - 08/14/2007, 04:11 PM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by Gottfried - 08/14/2007, 04:35 PM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by jaydfox - 08/14/2007, 02:42 AM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by Gottfried - 08/14/2007, 03:08 AM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by jaydfox - 08/14/2007, 05:09 AM
RE: Iterability of exp(x)-1 - by Gottfried - 08/14/2007, 05:09 AM

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